Apparently the Claws mailing list has regular gripes as Claws by default (well as much as Claws has anything by default) checks certs and pins them for its own email server (sounds sensible), but some users end up bouncing between Gmail servers with different but simultaneously valid certs when Google roll out new certs for Gmail.

http://lists.claws-mail.org/pipermail/users/2012-January/001099.html

Convergence client is Firefox only AFAIK, which would omit other uses of SSL. So might not address this case, but pinning or automated notaries would likely also flag up a possible issue.

I can see why this might be painful for Google and other big operators, but it may be easier for them to ensure their certificates are consistent, or updated quickly, or alternatively that they identify the servers with distinct names under the bonnet somewhere, than devise a more complex scheme to try and address the issue, with the inevitable risk of a more complex scheme leaving more and bigger holes.

I vaguely recall the Claws folk complaining about someone else, possibly Facebook(?), having issues when rolling out new certificates, but that the issue is now resolved, and they rolls new certificates out quickly across the infrastructure (on a regular basis).

Either way the Google proposal appears to require everyone to change what they do, or did I misread it(?), wasn’t there a special checkbox for that on the Final and Ultimate Solution to the Spam Problem checklist?

That said, surely a significant subset of G20 attendees should have a VPN or other stringent security measures for things like e-mail? Or do they have to have Gmail to leave messages in their Gmail account for their mistresses to pick up later? The French approach of quietly tolerating Mistresses removes that particular risk

Thanks.

Hope they don’t make as much work for the grounds-cleaning staff as the similarly-adorable Sun GMP geese did.

The 4070 was a slowed down 4080 (store interleaving disabled), and there is support for the 4080 in my emulator in theory, but I haven’t really tried it. I’ve only used the emulator to emulate the later systems with PAS addressing – the 4160, 4090, and 4190 families. The emulator doesn’t have a working 4070/4080 front panel. However, it will let you drive a 4070/4080 system from a 4160 front panel and/or 4160 MCU, which is much easier to use. Also, I don’t have any 4070/4080 IPL PROM images, but the emulator can IPL a system without using the IPL PROM at all. If your 4070 works enough to power-up the CPU, it should be possible to read the IPL PROM image from the front panel (Reset, set Instruction-Stop mode, IPL2, and read bottom 256 bytes of store. Could repeat for IPL1 too, but the emulator doesn’t support the really old peripherals like paper tape which use IPL1.)

Also, restricting server to server seems at odds with ‘cloudy’ computing push and desires for reliability. Hmm.

In hangouts you’ll be able to do c2s but no s2s and some other restrictions. Google talk being merged into hangouts.

Furthermore, quinoa is great because it has all the essential proteins BUT you can also get those from eating beans and a banana. Once again, we are rather misinformed consumers. I write more about this here: http://whatsnickeating.com/2013/05/16/quinoa-chomping-vegans-are-killing-peruvians/